Saturday, February 06, 2021

Testament (1983)

Testament is a 1983 film about the collapse of civilization after a nuclear apocalypse. It focuses specifically on one family in California.



Roger Ebert opens with this: ""Testament" may be the first movie in a long time that will make you cry. It made me cry. And seeing it again for the second time, knowing everything that would happen, anticipating each scene before it came, I was affected just as deeply."

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  1. It feels like we came close to the collapse of our civilization this past year, both through the pandemic and Capitol insurrection

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  2. ...civilization is collapsing around us at the moment.

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    1. I'm hopeful we caught it in time, but there are so many promoting the disproven conspiracy theories :(

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  3. It sounds sad. Are the 1983 end of the world films any different from the 2010s films on the same subject?

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    1. It is a sad movie. I'm not sure what the differences are between these kinds of films through the years.

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  4. This sounds scary! Valerie

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  5. We´re nearly at it with "Corinna"... (our internet isn´t good enough for such a long movie, sadly, and I don´t wanna cry anyways. But yes, we need such movies, also!)

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    1. Oh, I'm so sick of all this, and now we have the more contagious variants :(

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  6. You will like this I'm going to quote a Democrat, "You have nothing to fear but fear it self" FDR. That is the saddest part of this last year people have lost their fortitude and have let fear drive them. If our civilization is so fragile that it could collapse from the actions of one man even Trump we do not deserve to keep it. This last year has been steered with artificial hysteria most of it aimed at changing leadership. Fear is for the ignorant.

    Stay smart and stay safe.

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    1. "even Trump"? Our constitution and government weren't set up to deal with someone like trump as president, where he could look at the emoluments clause and just ignore it and suffer no consequences at all, where his party wouldn't stand up to any of his corruption but instead aided and abetted him and are still at it.

      None of this has been about fear, and I don't know what you mean about "artificial hysteria". Do you mean the insurrectionists whipped up to a frenzy, driven by conspiracy theories, who invaded and took over the capitol? Have you heard what they're spewing now? According to them trump is still president, and I keep being told "You'll see" in all caps lol If that ain't artificial hysteria I don't know what is ;)

      _Appropriate_ fear is a life-saver, btw. It keeps me away from cliff edges and keeps me within the legal speed limit while wearing a seat belt. Conspiracy theories and building up arsenals to combat your own government -that's the kind of fear that's for the ignorant.

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    2. Artificial hysteria is what went on with the race riots in the spring and summer. Far more police officers are killed trying to uphold law and order and protect the people they serve than people who are killed by police excessive force. Sometimes the race riots were instigated by a press to quick to disseminate false or misleading information. Another example is what has gone on with the Covid 19 sure it's been bad but we are still at only around ten percent of the population that has tested positive and the vast majority of those people were sick but not much worse than the regular flu. In stead of being honest about the corona plague Dr. Fauci and other officials have continually given false and misleading information changing guidelines to suit their needs. Information that is not consistent is useless if not harmful. The only reason the emoluments clause is even mentioned is because people were looking for ways to attack Trump. If the emoluments clause was such a concern we would need new prisons to lock up most if not all politicians. Time magazine has a an article out in the latest issue talking about the honesty of the election. Not calling anything fraud but detailing manipulation that certainly is not what people think of when they hear free and honest elections. I'll grant you that the action of January 6th were also artificial hysteria. It is a two way street and the Dems and Reps both inflame people to further their own agendas.

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    3. This is not true: "Far more police officers are killed trying to uphold law and order and protect the people they serve than people who are killed by police excessive force." In 2018, just to cite one year, there were 55 police officers feloniously killed, while 996 were killed by police in that same year. I get that the impression is that being a police officer is dangerous, and I'm not saying it doesn't have its dangers, but according to the bureau of labor statistics, it's the 16th most dangerous job in the U.S.

      Notice: actual facts with sources provided and not just my random opinion stated as fact ;)

      The press _covered_ the protests, they did not instigate them. If you've got evidence to the contrary I'd love to see it.

      Fauci, et al. have changed their recommendations as more information becomes available, and I can't believe you're making the "Covid-19 ain't that bad" argument, but I'll need more than just your opinion to consider it.

      The emoluments clause is considered in _every_ presidency. Every. Presidency. This is just the first time a president has said FU to the constitution.

      No, that's not what the Time Magazine article says. Have you actually read it? I have. It's about the measures taken to try to protect our electoral process and how hard that was in the face of the trump administration's work to the contrary.

      No, it's not the same and to suggest the insurrection is just like what Democrats have done is just a false equivalence and whataboutism.

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    4. The police thing would be more accurately stated as more police killed than disputed civilian killings. The press told us time and again just the facts that would incite people. In the George Floyd death they didn't tell us that the police were following city protocol when he died. In the Breonna Taylor case the fact that the police were fired upon was either not mentioned at all or buried far down in the story. Almost all the time especially TV news they told just enough of the story to rile people up. Half truths are worse than out right lies because there harder to detect. You couldn't turn on the TV or read the paper with out the media cheer leading the riots.

      The numbers are the numbers and 90% of people have not been physically effected by covid. Fauci in his own words has been quoted as saying he manipulated information to try to effect outcomes.

      No it's the first time people chose to look at it. Clinton was renting out the Lincoln bedroom. Politicians are consistently enriching them selves from their positions of power.
      I only read excerpts of the time article.
      Not exactly Maxine Waters is quoted as telling people to attack Republicans in restaurants to run them out of town. That's just one example of Dems doing the same thing it helps when the press is in your corner and only tries to make Republicans look bad.

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    5. "The police thing would be more accurately stated ..."? Sources? Any figures at all? I showed you mine ;)

      The press reported on the facts, yes, I agree with you there, but the George Floyd case is complicated. The protests weren't about a single case (though single cases tend to stir things back up) but are about a pattern. A long, long pattern. Your complaint that the press doesn't cover stories deeply enough or fully enough, I agree with that, too. Often, though, these protests begin before the press has covered the story. I know that's often the case here.

      I won't argue with you over whether or not Covid-19 is a serious health issue unless you can point me to actual figures. We're closing in on 500,000 dead, for pity's sake. Show me the Fauci quote. I've never claimed he was perfect, but I'd love to know your source on this: "Fauci in his own words has been quoted as saying he manipulated information to try to effect outcomes."

      No, it's not, clearly and provably _not_ "the first time people chose to look at it". There was a question about Obama owning Treasury bonds, coz they pay interest. H.W. Bush, Ronald Reagan, Bill Clinton, and George W. Bush put everything in a blind trust. This is an old concern, often considered, and considered with Every Single President. The Lincoln bedroom scandal was not an emoluments clause issue but related to the campaign finance reform issue.

      Maxine Waters didn't say anything at all about running Republicans out of town. If she did I'd love to see your source. And calling for that is not even in the same ballpark as an armed insurrection.

      Go, Chiefs!

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    6. Every state is putting forth numbers every day on the virus. all you have to do is the math 350 million people it would take 3 million deaths to get to 1 percent, bad but pretty good odds. The Maxine Waters thing is exactly how the press manipulates things If Trump had said this it's all you would have heard for a couple of weeks.

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    7. "pretty good odds" is imo a horrible way of looking at this virus. The 7-day average of new cases reported is 2,300. There have been 27M cases reported +87,889 more reported yesterday. 463K deaths +1,301 more reported yesterday. And those figures are just from the USA. Worldwide there've been 106,755,003 cases reported with 3% having died according to worldometers. There's an interesting map at the Wikipedia page showing deaths per million and cases per million and daily new confirmed cases in countries around the world. As of August, 2020, it's the 3rd leading cause of death in the U.S., and the more contagious variants are just now getting here.

      The attitude that your personal odds of not dying from it are good is such a cavalier attitude to take, especially given the long-term effects some people suffer for months afterwards. Some who live never fully recover.

      The press has been on this "Maxine Waters thing" since day one and is still going strong. You misrepresented what she said.

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    8. It's not just good odds for me it's pretty good odds for everyone. There are also quite a few adverse health effects from the hysteria our health officials are promulgating. Older people slipping into dementia from lack of physical contact, people ignoring normal screenings, depression, increased drug and alcohol use, an increase in smoking for the first time in several years. It's not good that any one is dying but the vast majority are people who are teetering on the edge of the grave.

      Living in fear is not healthy.

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    9. Yeah, yeah, any one person's odds of not getting it or getting it and surviving are good. Just like my odds of not getting in a car crash and dying of a head injury (but I still wear the seat belt, even though the objections to them were strong). "Living in fear" ain't what's going on. People taking great preening pride in maybe being Typhoid Mary is what's going on.

      I'm not living in fear, but I am living with a careful regard for the advice from medical professions.

      It's hard to keep talking to you about this particular subject when you consistently respond to my facts/figures/sources with your own opinion not backed up by anything. Maybe you hold an informed opinion based on research, but I can't know that from your comments, especially when you've made claims on other subjects which were clear misrepresentations.

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  7. I remember seeing this when it came out. It is so well done -- and frightening as all get out.

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    1. I love post-apocalyptic films, and this one stood out.

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  8. Sounds like a tragic and sad movie! Hugs, Jo x

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  9. I had seen this back when but wanted to watch it again before I commented. I wouldn't have been aware of the very young Kevin Costner in a small part at the time. Such a sad movie, but not overdone or out of the realm of possibility. Makes you wonder what you would do or be able to do if there was a war or a super pandemic or a huge asteroid hit or another massive shift in temperature changed everything. After the last year it is easier to imagine...sad, but true.

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    1. It's a tragic story, and I like how it deals with the everyday lives of average individuals in a realistic setting and not with the higher-ups making the decisions. The striving and failing to maintain any kind of life like they were used to... I thought this was one of the better post-apocalyptic films, and it's definitely re-watchable. There were several really good ones that came out at about that time.

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